WERE YOU PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY THE GREAT DEPRESSION?
Yes, I was personally affected by the great depression, inasmuch as work jobs were hard to obtain. During my father’s development of the typesetting company, I used to work there after school and on Saturdays to assist father; I also used to go to the shop occasionally on days of the week during summer school vacation to transport type to the printing shops, and to clean up around our shop. One of these projects was to remelt the used type and pour it into molds for re-use by the machine. I started doing this when I was about ten years old, and performed it throughout my years until I was 18 and at the time the machine was sold. I also had started learning to set up type on the machine, but it became interrupted when the machine was moved to Salt Lake City for a couple of years, and later I lost my association with the typesetting operation when the machine was sold.
My father died on March 15, 1929, [actually 1932] leaving a large family at home. There were 12 of us children living with mother, inasmuch as Henry and Richard were working in Salt Lake City. The older ones of us used to work at odd jobs; my brother Paul and I could work as caddies at the Ogden Golf Club after school on week days, and on Saturdays. Sometimes it was favorable, but other days not enough members came to play golf, or the weather would keep them away. After Richard moved the machine back to Ogden, I used to assist him whenever he had enough work to accommodate me. After the machine was sold and we moved to Salt Lake City, I started going to school at the L.D.S. Business College. During my last two years in high school at Weber, I had developed my ability in learning the typewriter; I also had acquired speed and served as a member of the school’s typewriting team which performed on contests at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah. At L.D.S. Business College I passed a top-speed typing test, and also passed the English class entry examination which established me as a helper for the English class professor. I would work during one class period with him, and also for an hour after school correcting other student papers. This would total for me about ten hours per week for which I was paid 35¢ per hour to cover most of my school expenses. I also had joined the Utah National Guard, for which I received $1.00 per drill meeting each week and the same pay per day during summer training camp at Camp Williams in Utah County, located at Jordan Narrows at the north boundary of Utah County.
In November of 1935 I was sent by the business college to serve as a temporary typist at the Mountain Fuel Supply Company. I worked there for four days and received pay at 35¢ per hour also. I returned to school and continued for another month. In December, my supervisor in the Company accounting department re-called me to work for another few days typing up financial reports. It turned out that more work was available on November and December business, and I continued working until the end of January, 1936. One of the accounting department employees received a job appointment through civil service and moved away to work in the Salt Lake Post Office. This provided a job opening permanently for me at the Mountain Fuel Supply, first as the clerk of the company mail department, next as an operator for the addressograph machines, then later returning to the accounting department to type up accounting reports, gas supply invoices, and to duplicate reports on ditto machines for transfer to the general office at Findlay, Ohio, located with the Ohio Oil Company, the principal stockholder of Mountain Fuel Supply Company. I continued working with Mountain Fuel for 43½ years, interrupted only be serving for two years in the United States Army during World War II and thereafter in 1944 to 1946. I advanced to other jobs in the Accounting Department until 1953, and in the Legal Department from 1953 to 1979.
WAS YOUR FAMILY OR A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY INVOLVED IN THE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME? (CCC, WPA)
My brother Paul served in the CCC from 1936 until 1939. He worked in the Jericho area north of Delta, Utah first, then transferred to Southern Utah, and later to Southern Idaho. Another brother Philip served in the CCC during 1939 and 1940.
DURING THE DEPRESSION WHAT WERE YOUR FAMILY’S FEELINGS TOWARDS HOOVER AND FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT?
Generally they were changeable-type feelings; first when Hoover was elected, they felt good about him, but after the stock market crash and subsequent depression, they decided that Hoover was not taking proper care of the country. Likewise, when Roosevelt was elected, they felt supportive of him, but in subsequent elections, they wanted improvement for taxpayers and voted for Roosevelt’s opponents. The depression kept businesses down too long, and they were discouraged with the president’s capability. I suppose we all thought someone could change economic conditions faster than was possible.
WHAT ARE YOUR CURRENT VIEWS TOWARD THESE TWO MEN?
I feel that none of these two men could have accomplished rapid turn-overs of the economic status without full assistance by all top-American businessmen towards such improvement. Mr. Hoover served favorably after his presidential term in other matters for our country, but Mr. Roosevelt, due to his death in 1945, was unable to perform in after-term matters.